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Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3?

Reference your 1858 Volume II, page 50, second paragraph, last sentence; I may have something for you.

I have an 1859/8, in VF condition, sporting the obverse die OG3 with the die break at R of Gratia and the distinctive triple punched G of Regina. It also has a small die break at the top of DEI and faint die breaks at the top of RE of Regina and at the left top of the 2nd I of Victoria. The reverse die is the expected RD6.

I also have an 1859 N9, in EF condition, sporting the obverse die OG3 with the distinctive triple punched G of Regina but it has no die breaks whatsoever. The reverse is a: N9; wide date; DP 18, weak 5, even 9 slanting right; vine break at leaf 13 and weak vine break at leaf 7; missing stems at leaves 6 and 8; broken stems at leaves 11 and 13; dies breaks at leaves 4, 5, 7, 13 and 14. I have no idea if this reverse is an early, middle or late die product.

Based on the presence/absence of die breaks on these two coins, it seems that obverse die OG3 (identified as an 1859/8 obverse die) minted first 1859 N9 then 1859/8 coins. This is as interesting as the obverse die OD4 (identified as an 1858 obverse die) having minted first 1859/8 then 1858 coins based on the size of the die breaks (Figure 2-12, page 49, your 1858 Volume II refers).

I hope this help in determining the timing of the minting of the 1859/8.

Grav, 3/31/2011
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Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (Grav, 3/31/2011)
 Re: Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (stokrooky, 3/31/2011)
  Re: Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (Dick, 3/31/2011)
   Re: Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (Grav, 4/1/2011)
    Re: Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (Dick, 4/1/2011)
     Re: Rob: 1859/8 and 1859 N9, both with an obverse OG3? (JHax, 4/1/2011)

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